Please don't talk about sex in fiction. It's called erotica.
Please don't talk about sex on film. It's called porn.
And please, please don't talk about having sex -- talk about coitus or shagging or fucking or making love. Ok?
I write erotic fiction, as it is known. I've recently embarked on trying to publish said erotic fiction and I am learning many things in the process.
"Sex sells," they say. They're right. What this does not mean is that sex is commercial (or at least, not overtly; scantily clad model? Ooh, hot. Description of said model masturbating in a public toilet? Sorry, not unless you're Easton Ellis or Philip Roth).
"Sex is normal and healthy," they preach. They're right. What this does not mean is that mentioning sex is mainstream, or even acceptable in many venues. In fact the presence of sex in fiction and film is so contentious that we've given them their own genres if it gets too detailed. As a writer, this is confusing and frustrating to say the least.
"Sex cheapens everything," they whisper. I feel a bit sorry for them, because they must either be having awful sex or feel pitifully guilty for what they do have. Calling something bawdy, tawdry, smutty and gratuituous only serves to demean the emotional value of sex (and there is always emotional value, whether it is positive or negative) because it automatically attributes meaning to the physical side of sex over the rest.
Sex and violence are often deemed gratuitous (as if this is always a bad thing. I'm currently eating a gratuitous scone and let me tell you -- it's awesome). Unless there's a specific purpose to sex and violence, a writer or a film maker should fade to grey. Even if you feature a lot of valid, plot-worthy sex and/or violence within your project, rest assured that it will get a special label to alert the public to its questionable content. Warning: people doing normal, human things that you may or may not agree with! Hang on a minute...isn't that one definition of good fiction?
I'm well aware of religious and moral agendas (and I'm sure this particular point is argued more eloquently, and in more detail, elsewhere). Everyone is entitled to their view. But here's the rub: a lot of us are afraid of these normal, human things. We've externalised those "primal" urges, given them special words and laminated them with very modern rules, as if they are somehow contained on our walls beneath the plastic.
We think these urges say bad (mostly Freudian) things about us. We don't want to know about them. We don't want to read about them or watch them and we especially don't want to talk about them -- it's vulgar, you see. One wouldn't talk to their friends in the park about going to the toilet, and sex is just another bodily function (if sex is a little like going to the toilet for you -- heads-up. You're doing it wrong). Sex is directly related to our most intimate secrets, fetishes and fantasies. It is symptomatic of the things which make us vulnerable, and desire is often dictated by neuroses modern men and women aren't supposed to have (therapy fixed my Daddy issues...so why do they still get me off?). When you look at it this way, how are you meant to have sex and not feel guilty? And if you don't, why are a hundred critics descending to judge you (and your characters)? What have they got to hide...?
It's perfectly valid to keep what goes on between you and your partner private, if that's your preference -- but sex can still be discussed in abstract, if you'd like. It can be discussed with dignity. It doesn't have to be a competition about how much more you've tried, or a crude carnival of curses and slang. Truth be told, I think it can be talked about with wit and elegance, and insight that is touching (excuse the pun) and meaningful. There's no need for a nudge and a wink.
I can say all of this until I'm blue in the face (a frisky flush would be more appropriate) but it comes down to this: I wrote a book with lots of sex. I wrote a book about sex. Because it's not all abstract; because it's not devoid of emotion; because there is evident enjoyment in that sex (which is kind of the point of the act, nooo...?); it's proving pretty hard to place. It's intelligent, people have said. It's written really well. It's just not for us. Books about sex need their own publishers, you see, and most of those publishers have to "hide" online (just as sex often has to "hide" in other genres, such as fantasy, literary or horror). I wrote a book about conflicts that a lot of people have and about something that almost everyone does (even if they don't do it in the same way, or don't talk about it if they do), and people are afraid of it. Above all else, that just makes me...sad.
I want to stand up for sex. Not smut, not filth, not fucking or lovemaking or erotica or romantica or whatever box they want to stuff it in to make the tropes fit. I want to share the freedom of fearlessness. Not everybody wants to read about sex, no...but we seem to have forgotten (and subsequently stigmatised) the people who do, as if only one preference can prevail. The healthy sales figures of erotic fiction suggest that the latter is possibly the more commonplace view, and things are getting better, slowly...but slow it is.
So, there you have it. A not so much "let's talk about it all the time!" but a "let's not ignore what is staring us in the face more often than we'd care to admit." A defense of sex.
Now...are you sitting uncomfortably?
Please don't talk about sex on film. It's called porn.
And please, please don't talk about having sex -- talk about coitus or shagging or fucking or making love. Ok?
I write erotic fiction, as it is known. I've recently embarked on trying to publish said erotic fiction and I am learning many things in the process.
"Sex sells," they say. They're right. What this does not mean is that sex is commercial (or at least, not overtly; scantily clad model? Ooh, hot. Description of said model masturbating in a public toilet? Sorry, not unless you're Easton Ellis or Philip Roth).
"Sex is normal and healthy," they preach. They're right. What this does not mean is that mentioning sex is mainstream, or even acceptable in many venues. In fact the presence of sex in fiction and film is so contentious that we've given them their own genres if it gets too detailed. As a writer, this is confusing and frustrating to say the least.
"Sex cheapens everything," they whisper. I feel a bit sorry for them, because they must either be having awful sex or feel pitifully guilty for what they do have. Calling something bawdy, tawdry, smutty and gratuituous only serves to demean the emotional value of sex (and there is always emotional value, whether it is positive or negative) because it automatically attributes meaning to the physical side of sex over the rest.
Sex and violence are often deemed gratuitous (as if this is always a bad thing. I'm currently eating a gratuitous scone and let me tell you -- it's awesome). Unless there's a specific purpose to sex and violence, a writer or a film maker should fade to grey. Even if you feature a lot of valid, plot-worthy sex and/or violence within your project, rest assured that it will get a special label to alert the public to its questionable content. Warning: people doing normal, human things that you may or may not agree with! Hang on a minute...isn't that one definition of good fiction?
I'm well aware of religious and moral agendas (and I'm sure this particular point is argued more eloquently, and in more detail, elsewhere). Everyone is entitled to their view. But here's the rub: a lot of us are afraid of these normal, human things. We've externalised those "primal" urges, given them special words and laminated them with very modern rules, as if they are somehow contained on our walls beneath the plastic.
We think these urges say bad (mostly Freudian) things about us. We don't want to know about them. We don't want to read about them or watch them and we especially don't want to talk about them -- it's vulgar, you see. One wouldn't talk to their friends in the park about going to the toilet, and sex is just another bodily function (if sex is a little like going to the toilet for you -- heads-up. You're doing it wrong). Sex is directly related to our most intimate secrets, fetishes and fantasies. It is symptomatic of the things which make us vulnerable, and desire is often dictated by neuroses modern men and women aren't supposed to have (therapy fixed my Daddy issues...so why do they still get me off?). When you look at it this way, how are you meant to have sex and not feel guilty? And if you don't, why are a hundred critics descending to judge you (and your characters)? What have they got to hide...?
It's perfectly valid to keep what goes on between you and your partner private, if that's your preference -- but sex can still be discussed in abstract, if you'd like. It can be discussed with dignity. It doesn't have to be a competition about how much more you've tried, or a crude carnival of curses and slang. Truth be told, I think it can be talked about with wit and elegance, and insight that is touching (excuse the pun) and meaningful. There's no need for a nudge and a wink.
I can say all of this until I'm blue in the face (a frisky flush would be more appropriate) but it comes down to this: I wrote a book with lots of sex. I wrote a book about sex. Because it's not all abstract; because it's not devoid of emotion; because there is evident enjoyment in that sex (which is kind of the point of the act, nooo...?); it's proving pretty hard to place. It's intelligent, people have said. It's written really well. It's just not for us. Books about sex need their own publishers, you see, and most of those publishers have to "hide" online (just as sex often has to "hide" in other genres, such as fantasy, literary or horror). I wrote a book about conflicts that a lot of people have and about something that almost everyone does (even if they don't do it in the same way, or don't talk about it if they do), and people are afraid of it. Above all else, that just makes me...sad.
I want to stand up for sex. Not smut, not filth, not fucking or lovemaking or erotica or romantica or whatever box they want to stuff it in to make the tropes fit. I want to share the freedom of fearlessness. Not everybody wants to read about sex, no...but we seem to have forgotten (and subsequently stigmatised) the people who do, as if only one preference can prevail. The healthy sales figures of erotic fiction suggest that the latter is possibly the more commonplace view, and things are getting better, slowly...but slow it is.
So, there you have it. A not so much "let's talk about it all the time!" but a "let's not ignore what is staring us in the face more often than we'd care to admit." A defense of sex.
Now...are you sitting uncomfortably?


Sorry you're having trouble placing your book, Lucy. It must be frustrating to get positive feedback but no takers.
"Sex and violence are often deemed gratuitous (as if this is always a bad thing. I'm currently eating a gratuitous scone and let me tell you -- it's awesome)."
Love this. I am a fan of the gratuitous: sex, violence, swearing, humour - all of it.
My sense is that in N. American culture, especially in the U.S., sex and sexuality are slightly more taboo than violence. Any thoughts?
I think what you've said is very true. Growing up in the "Bible belt" has skewed my view of sex, and as an adult I've had to work on getting to a healthier view of it.
I think it's a shame that intelligent books about sex can't sell. Let's be honest Tropic of Cancer isn't exactly intelligent writing after all.
@E.C.--That's very true about the US. There's a documentary on Netflix (I think it's still on instant play) called This Film is Not Yet Rated that focuses on sex vs violence in the film rating system. It made my blood boil.
Good luck to you, Lucy on finding the perfect fit for your book.
PS-That old woman freaked me out a lot more than you talking about sex!
On my blog I frequently remarked on all the sex in my stories. I should probably just say bag it and go full on erotica.
It seems ironic and a little hypocritical that you are still having this experience when you consider all the authors of the 80's who wrote books where sex even wasn't an integral part of the plot, it was just pure titillation.
Keep plugging away; one of my friends believed in his book so much that originally he self published and only when it became popular did a publisher take him on.
Thanks all. I should point out: I am yet to submit to erotic publishing houses (they are next on my list, actually). I suppose I was unprepared for the commercial response, and having a read a couple of interesting articles on similar subjects recently, I felt like this was relevant.
ET -- since I'm British, I can't comment very far on that. Regarding gratuitous scenes, though -- I feel that many are labelled such when they aren't, or that some writers are so unfamiliar with (or maybe afraid of) writing sex scenes that they end up feeling gratuitous because they lack pyschological depth. A whole novel full of such scenes would get dull (even for me :P), so I'm not suggesting that's a good idea...just that I somewhat resent the stigma of the subject matter, even when I understand its cultural context.
WT: I think some intelligent books about sex sell (or I hope so. Or maybe mine isn't that clever after all, hehe). I have a friend who has one coming out here (albeit nonfiction): http://bettyherbert.com/
Rogue Mutt: yes. Stop denying yourself. Have a scone whilst doing so :D
Sam: there's plenty of sex around for titillation in all sorts of books. It's just having the power -- or finding the right people -- to help you get published. That said...I don't think there's anything wrong with sex written just for the kicks of it, so long as it's well done and in context with everything else. One just has to sell it as what it is to avoid disappointment/confusion on behalf of the reader.
Thanks for all of your responses :)
Lucy - sorry, I think I even noticed that you were British before I left my comment, but somehow I was thinking America when I was wondering about your problem.
The whole concept of gratuitousness is a strange one, ultimately. I mean, isn't fiction / the arts on the whole technically gratuitous? In the sense that it's something you don't need to physically survive?
Are you marketing exclusively to British presses?
Hello! I'm a published author (18 books and counting!) in the erotic romance field. I've written books from the humorously bawdy to the wildly romantic. But all have explicit sexual activity in them. I am proud of the stories I've written (with the exception of one I wish I could heavily revise...but we won't go there!)
NO WHERE is the divide so deep as among "romance" writers. I was in an elevator at the Romantic Times Convention with a bunch of young excited authors. I'm in my early sixties, you know? One of these sweet youngsters asked me what I wrote. And when I replied, "Erotic romance," they literally until their backs were against the wall.
That happened many times. In all age groups. At multiple conventions.
The interesting thing is this. As a very low level mid-list author in the field, I probably make four times what they make at their respectable NY publisher.
But they don't write about (whisper it!) SEX.
Oh, yeah. My dad is a Baptist minister so you really can't imagine how well that went over.
great post- I live in a podunk town in wyoming and sex is very taboo here- but lots of people are reading it and doing it LOL
Bravo--great post. It seems to me that this stigma/problem especially applies to erotica written by and for women, but I could be overly sensitive. ;) Good luck placing your book.
Great post. *Applauds loudly*
Good post! I write erotic too and get so much crap from people who don't understand it at all. Keep your head up. I get it from conservatives all the time. I just simply reply with have you read the Book of Solomon at all.
What's this? You want to be able to speak honestly in writing about S-E-X and not have it be called porn or nasty? You silly thing! Don't you know that they church has worked long and hard for two thousand years to get the western world to feel guilty about sex and secular or not your not going to change it overnight!
But having said all that... I wholeheartedly agree!
Hi, crusader making her rounds. I'm not a lover (pun not intended!) of erotica because the sex scenes seem forced. I don't write erotica but I do write some sexy scenes and was advised to cut out or at least trim my scenes. But as I say, I don't write erotica so I'm probably not writing them correctly! But how many times can you describe a sex scene without sounding repetitive?
Louise -- you're right; writing sex is hard, and it can be difficult to write scenes where you aren't repeating yourself. That said -- it can be done, and well too. If your character is progressing through them, having new experiences and doing different things (or different people!)-- even just seeing old things in a new way -- then it's significant character development.
Some people don't like to read sex scenes. That's absolutely fine. I personally don't like third person narrators too much, lol...but I wouldn't suggest anyone change that if it worked for what they were writing.
Writing sex scenes is quite the opposite of forced for me, lol...once I've set everything up, it's all I can do not to write the damn things. I will often go through and trim out bits that make it oversaturated, but that doesn't mean there isn't still a fair amount of it in there.
I don't like the word "gratuitous" but I agree that some sex scenes are quite useless to a story (just like waffly dialogue or pointless description). The good ones, though...in my eyes, they're priceless.
I'm currently writing a YA novel and I'm already having to reign myself in, lol.
As a reader, I feel pissed about this because I like reading sex scenes, and it can be difficult to find erotic fiction that appeals to me. I love the writing you can find in Rachel Kramer Bussel's anthologies but a lot of times, I want a full length version of the story . . . & maybe this is exactly why - no one buys the great stories I'd love to read, because it's too explicit.
I just finished a book about a Southern belle who takes a different lover for every day of the week . . . & from all that sex potential - the reason I picked the book out - there was only one sex scene told as it happened, & it was mostly the role playing dialogue of an old man pretending to be a Captain in the Civil War. Cute, and funny, but disappointing when I thought I'd be reading some steamy fiction, you know?
So anyway, all that to say, this situation sucks for the readers, too, and I would love to read the story none of these commercial publishers want.
Good luck!
xoxo
Jessica
PS: I found your blog through your Whisper post on Betty's site - gorgeous!
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